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10 December 2009 @ 02:45 am
Cool thing about sleep  
sometimes i want lots and lots of sleep.
this is my time of complete and uninterrupted happiness and solitude.
i love sleep and some times I ponder about the possibilities of just sleeping for like a week or so...except of the obvious reasons that I cant such as college, work, friends, and my girlfriend.

does anyone else enjoy their sleep as much as I do?

also I have some crazy thoughts while I sleep, for example today i woke up and instantly knew how to phrase the ideas of my philosophical paper to make it: intriguing, logical, and relevant. this is something which had stumpped me the night before, but my dreams brought me the perfect solution(surprisingly events like this happen frequently)

specifically, does this happen to any other INTJs?

PS hi I'm new to this form, and new to knowing I'm a INTJ, but after scoring indefinitely high on 2 different MB tests, and reading the traits of a INTJ, I've concluded that I have been apart of this special 2.1% cult since childhood.
Alliepeaceolgy on December 10th, 2009 10:56 am (UTC)
Oh definitely. I think sleep is one of the most imperative things in my life. If I have work to be done, I'll go to bed and just get up early and do it, not cram it in til 3 in the morning. I tend to shut down at night and I need some amount of restoration to really continue anything.
Kai Hamutirisenphoenixkai on December 10th, 2009 11:26 am (UTC)
No. I hate sleep. I view it as an utterly inefficient waste of 25 - 33% of my life. Honestly, there are so many things I'd rather be doing with that time - playing guitar, video games, reading, writing, anything other than lying in a horizontal position, unconscious and useless, for hours at a stretch.

My perspective on sleep might be somewhat moulded by my constant insomnia (or perhaps it's the other way around). I get very little real rest out of sleep, mostly because there are very few nights when I descend below the level of REM sleep and into true unconsciousness. Instead I spend almost all night every night having dreams so incredibly vivid and realistic that I occasionally have difficulty sorting out memories of actual events vs. memories of dreams. I've had experiences in dreams that were so vivid they became a part of my lexicon of self, i.e. they pretty much became "real" as far as my mind is concerned, and only when I sit down and carefully sort out the threads of these events do I remember that no, they never actually happened anywhere other than my sleeping head.

The corollary to that is occasionally I have dreams so entertaining for one reason or another that I end up not wanting to wake up from them. I have to say, if I'm a butterfly dreaming it's a man, the poor butterfly must be bored out of its mind.
Crystal: princessbridegoingmaddrandomtuba on December 10th, 2009 11:39 am (UTC)
Once, I dreamed I dumped my boyfriend via IM. It was so vivid that it even included his typical spelling and grammatical errors.
I didn't hadn't happened until he called me a few days later. Yeah... that's when I started logging my AIM sessions.

Do you keep a dream journal to keep track of things?
NyteKitnytekit on December 12th, 2009 11:06 am (UTC)
No. I hate sleep. I view it as an utterly inefficient waste of 25 - 33% of my life. Honestly, there are so many things I'd rather be doing with that time - playing guitar, video games, reading, writing, anything other than lying in a horizontal position, unconscious and useless, for hours at a stretch.

My perspective on sleep might be somewhat moulded by my constant insomnia (or perhaps it's the other way around).

This. Every time the clock rolls around to the "sleeping hours" I think of all the things I could be getting done when I'm forced to lie down and shut my eyes. I usually only sleep 6 hours a night, and that's on a good night. Conversely, when I get a lot of sleep, I actually do feel physically better for it. I just hate wasting so many hours, even if it is useful.

I think this may be related to the crazy thoughts/dreams I have while asleep. I sometimes wonder if I ever truly rest if my mind is always moving and coming up with these things. Recently, I had such a vivid yet completely strange and random dream that I decided to turn it into a story. It included ghost cameras and an ancient Egypt described far too much detail for me to have never researched it. Also, when I do dream, I'm rarely involved in the dream itself - always watching the dream and know that I am dreaming - so it's almost like watching a movie.
Crystal: marblesdrandomtuba on December 10th, 2009 11:33 am (UTC)
I both love and hate sleep with a fiery passion, depending on the day.

Right now, I have Depression... essentially. The only thing I'm finding any real enjoyment in, is the time when I'm asleep. So, all I want to do is be alone and sleeping.

When I've got actual interests to pursue, then sleeping becomes an irritant, and sometimes even unnecessary. There are stretches where more than a few hours of sleep is overkill, and those are usually the times when I'm happiest.

and then there's now. Regardless of what time I lay down, or how long I'm able to stay in bed, I'm still mentally drained.

Doesn't help matters that it almost always takes around an hour for my brain to shut down enough that I'm able to sleep at all.
Des: Owen Marshthagirion on December 10th, 2009 01:28 pm (UTC)
Hi and welcome. I love sleep too. My dream life is just as important to me as my waking life. I have very vivid dreams and keep a seperate journal for my other ones. Just last night I dreamt about Transformers battleing in a Home Depot and finding a new one no one knew about and fixing him by making him drink insane amounts of soda. I don't even care for transformers but I enjoyed how fun and funny that dream was.

I practice lucid dream where I know I'm dreaming and have so much more control. I only control myself and let everything else be random as it's much more fun like the above dream. My dreams are usually action packed and I shape shift a lot. My themes are usually about flying or fighting and really enjoy them when they involve my personal characters or obsessions.
Malterre: bearmalterre on December 10th, 2009 02:06 pm (UTC)
Sleep is a cure-all for me.
Depressed? Sick? Sleep.
Have an idea that won't form? Sleep and dream.
Need an escape from or to mull on a personal relationship?-well, you get the idea.

The only bad part about it is when I wake up from vivid dreams and realize that no, I cannot set people on fire with the power of my mind...bummer.
The perils of being in 3-D...adianavy on December 10th, 2009 02:24 pm (UTC)
I love to sleep. In fact I've been known to go for a weekend without getting out of bed. :) I like being in my own world without anyone intruding.
Anneke: BJD_Sanguinivampireanneke on December 10th, 2009 02:45 pm (UTC)
I don't know/think it's just an INTJ thing. I love to sleep, wish I could sleep 10 hrs a day. I get about 7.5 but it's just not enough. I do kind of hate that it cuts into time I could be getting stuffed accomplished, but I still just love sleep.
secretivesecretive_cat on December 10th, 2009 03:02 pm (UTC)
I hate sleep, because it takes time away from my projects. I try to sleep the minimum about required in order to function well (6 hours) unless I have time. I only enjoy it when I have an interesting dream, which is not often. Dreams often inspire me, therefore I am always pleased to have one. When I am satisfied with my life I tend to have lucid dreams. Currently I am just too busy to dream(or at least remember them?)

When I crawl into bed it is out of exhaustion rather than happiness or comfort.
NyteKit: Realitynytekit on December 12th, 2009 11:08 am (UTC)
Currently I am just too busy to dream(or at least remember them?)

...Actually, ditto to your entire post.
Janne: trek whateverjanne on December 10th, 2009 03:03 pm (UTC)
I don't see anything particularly appealing about sleep, and would happily do without if the health consequences weren't so bad. Arriving at new insights after sleeping on something is of course a good thing, but not particularly special to INTJ's as far as I can tell. (A small glass of wine, a long walk, anything else that switches the mind off for a while also seems to work just as well.)
x_lilia_xx_lilia_x on December 10th, 2009 03:46 pm (UTC)
I love sleeping, I could sleep for 15/16 hours if left undisturbed but yeah agree that it wastes time... I wish there were more hours in the day.

I frequently get dreams that come 'true', it's weird. I had a particulary vivid experience when I was younger and it still freaks me out to this day.
Wir graben der Schaft von Babellectrix_lecti on December 10th, 2009 03:49 pm (UTC)
I prefer drowsing. I enjoy going to bed, and I practically live for the half-hour or hour after I've gone to bed but before I actually go to sleep, plus mornings when I have the time to do a bit of a lie-in and doze are pure bliss.

Like a poster above I use sleep as a cure-all, and if I have any problems I go to bed confident in my brain mostly sorting it out while I sleep.

Unfortunately I have periods of insomnia. It was horrible when I was little, but I've taught myself mad sleep hygiene and usually sleep well nowadays.
nrchstnrchst on December 10th, 2009 06:39 pm (UTC)
I like to slough off all the stupid/aggravation I encounter on a day to day basis, so yes, sleep is vital to me functioning. :)
Princess of the Nightnight_princess on December 10th, 2009 09:12 pm (UTC)
Once I'm asleep, sleep is great. It's the going-to-sleep and waking-back-up parts that suck. Context swapping is inefficient, and the rest of the world being on a 24-hour cycle is just too short. I work better on something closer to a 30-hour cycle these days. (It used to longer when I was a teenager.)

I do often wish that humans were more of a hibernating species. It would be nice to just sleep through winter when it's cold.

My subconscious does a lot for me, but I have many other triggers I can use, beyond just sleep. For example, another stereotypically recognized trigger for subconscious solutions is the shower, and that one works well for me too.

I don't think love of sleep or subconscious solutions are an INTJ thing, but many (INTJs included) choose to call love of sleep a vice and consider subconscious solutions untrustworthy.
Sidereasiderea on December 11th, 2009 06:25 am (UTC)
the rest of the world being on a 24-hour cycle is just too short.

I move that the INTJ Mad Scientists Union make as its first order of business reducing the spin of the earth to a 28 hour period.
The perils of being in 3-D...: On fireadianavy on December 11th, 2009 01:55 pm (UTC)
afro_dyteafro_dyte on December 10th, 2009 10:39 pm (UTC)
I think sleeping is one of my favorite hobbies.
newhavenitenewhavenite on December 12th, 2009 02:40 am (UTC)
So glad to see other people who think the opposite. I HATE sleep! I can't stand how a third of our lives is supposed to be spent (wasted, to me) unconscious. This is probably because I usually have too many things on my to-do list, have stress-induced insomnia, and I either have dull dreams (reading a newspaper) or bizarro nightmares.
I love being sleepy, though. At least when it's appropriate, not like when driving, lol. Sleep also is the only thing that helps me think clearly and function well, so I'm always trying to make it the #1 priority in life. (Thanks for the reminder of the good it can do!)
少女革命 Meep: thalassophobicmeepalicious on December 19th, 2009 05:03 pm (UTC)
I love sleeping, and falling asleep… I even love waking up, when I'm able to do it on my own time schedule, when my body's ready and I wake up slowly and peacefully~

I get the same thing that you did with your paper, too; I wake up knowing exactly what I want to say and how to say it. Unfortunately for my roommates, this usually happens at 5am, so I'm stumbling around looking for a pen and paper, because I also know if I don't write it down that instant, it's gone for good. Does the same thing happen to you?
verde_windcrest on January 5th, 2010 04:01 am (UTC)
I don't think that it's just INTJs, this is everybody. I'm an INFP and I have mixed feelings about sleep, but regardless, it's a matter of opinion to me. I hate having a whole week to myself and end up doing the same thing everyday, then going to sleep and waking up in the exact same time-frame. It is a waste, and I am always compelled to do more to advance or better myself. What can you do in 16 hours? Surprisingly little. And when your hobbies take up about half of the time you spend awake... what day is it again? Really?
I only love sleep when I just get to waking up and I'm drowsy as hell. xD